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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:30 am 
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Text file checked.

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:47 am 
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Ta mate, Wayne can you check your sent text file too please thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:17 pm 
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Not sure what use that is as he has confirmed his own is correct and I am the one who will need to see it to check it...

Reality is someone has made an error (easy to do, no criticism intended) and past experience has shown that very often managers double and triple check and still don't see the error they have made.

More relevant, unless Mike points out a mistake in your file that you have made and you agree with him you will have to send to me (as will Mike). Very strange to not just do that in the first place frankly, a first in Super Cup history, congrats ! :D

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:32 pm 
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Just to add (for the benefit of all just to be clear for future reference) that if the lack of enthusiasm is in connection to sending through files that will show what your tactics are please be aware that I don't look at the tactics employed by any manager.

Simple fact is that whilst a manager may think it somehow may give myself an advantage the reality is I dson't want to know what tactics a manager has played. It wouldn't help if I did know as I would only know the tactics in isolation, ie for that specific week, which is of no help as I have no way of knowing if those tactics are used every week, just for home games, away games, an experiment that week etc so all that knowledge would do is leave me second guessing.

As I don't give any thought to what another team's tactics are (bar vacant teams which wouldn't apply here for obvious reasons) anyway it is literally 100% useless information. Throw in that if somehow there was an advantage I still wouldn't look at the tactics as I am simply an honest manager who wouldn't do that and you literally have nothing to worry about.

A friendly only fails if one or both teams make a mistake or one of the side's orders aren't received by Glynn. There are no exceptions..

This is why if both managers are certain they did nothing wrong the ORIGINAL text file that was sent has to be forwarded to myself. If you re-download the file, save it again or similar then the text file will have the wrong date on it and not be proof of anything as clearly the text file has to be dates before the next turns are received.

Hopefully that has cleared things up a bit :)

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:10 pm 
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Actually all managers on here do..

Just hover on any post of mine on the forum and you get the option to e-mail myself. Click on it and it opens an e-mail for you from you to me in your client (outlook, thunderbird etc) or webpage (google ,aol etc) and you just write and send it.

Only been there since the forum started 14 1/2 years ago :wink: :lol: (to be fair you are one of many managers who has never noticed this). :D

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:11 pm 
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Plus there is an e-mail address in the rules for the Super Cup to send text files to...

Plus you could just look at my forum profile..

But other than all of those you have no way :wink: :D

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:33 pm 
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Ok, I'm guessing Wayne isn't forwarding the text file as he has been on here a few times since my posts re e-mail addresses and I have already added a day on to the usual Tuesday deadline for resolution with the New Year being a busy time for people.

So as Dave sent his files to myself the blackmark has to go to The Reds sorry Wayne. Please note this doesn't normally matter as the likelihood is the game will be played by yourselves on the re-arranged date without issue so hopefully I haven't annoyed you but a decision has to be made at the time of the missing game and with only one set of proof to hand I have no other option sorry.

So blackmarks to the teams in bold -

SHAOLIN F.C ...... .....v..... ...... THE REDS
RHYL FC ...... .....v..... ...... MTK BUDAPEST

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:00 am 
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One missed match where I need to know who did what. Before anyone posts please check the sent text file AND the html turn (former to make sure opponent and venue are correct, latter to make sure Glynn received the text file to process). Thanks, usual deadline of Tuesday to post here :)

METAL MILITIA ...... .....v..... ...... THE REDS

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:15 am 
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wayne wrote:
right this time it is my fault as i sent turn sheet and not text file ( i will admit when i do things wrong)


No one has said you won't admit when you do things wrong. You really took everything the wrong way last week, I'm sorry for any unintentional part I played in that but I was repeatedly very clear.

I was pointing out last week that managers VERY often just don't see the mistake that has been made. It happens so often with managers absolutely adamant they are not in error and then as soon as I see the text file the error is clear. It is simply a case of not seeing the wood for the trees sometimes and it happens to all of us, none of us are beyond it happening, including myself.

Hence why the proof of the sent file is always needed as ultimately it is impossible to have a friendly fail if orders are received and both teams have a game down correctly so there is ALWAYS a mistake somewhere.

Last week your "proof" amounted to your other team playing their friendly so you couldn't see you playing one game but not the other. At no point did it occur to you that that logic just as equally applied to your opponent Mike T who was in the same exact situation. Simple fact is a mistake was made and not seeing it doesn't mean it isn't there. If you had sent the proof I would have got to the bottom of it all in no time at all but you ultimately chose not to which is your choice and fair enough.

You said that you didn't send proof initially (I say initially as you still could have after the options were made very clear) because you didn't know my e-mail but there are many ways of finding an e-mail address on here (profile link, post link or just the actual Super Cup rules thread itself for example) that all escaped your attention so you are as capable of missing something as any of us so just as easy to miss something in the text file. We all, including myself, miss something that is staring us in the face from time to time, it isn't a criticism, it is simply an unavoidable truth. I know I am as likely to miss something as anyone so if you think I am criticising you believe me I am not. :)

To re-iterate I never said you won't admit things, just that none of us are infallible and a fresh pair of eyes can see something sometimes that we don't see no matter how hard or long we look at it. Completely different things and I'm sorry you took things so negatively when all I was trying to do was get things cleared up for the benefit of both of you :(

Thanks for the quick clarification of this week, much appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:35 am 
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One failed match I need to know who did what for please. Usual Tuesday deadline.

THE ACADEMY ...... .....v..... ...... DAVORIN

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:28 am 
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Charscot wrote:
One failed match I need to know who did what for please. Usual Tuesday deadline.

THE ACADEMY ...... .....v..... ...... DAVORIN


I'm filling in turns for Simon as his laptop has gone wrong and I did have this game down Rich (along with Grimbald, Metal Militia and Emmys Monstars) , sadly not got the turnsheet to see what it says, but should have text file I sent to Glynn if required.

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:31 am 
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Yep, knew about the laptop and your subbing for him (thanks for doing that).

Whether the text file is needed will depend on what Lee and Simon say as need to know whether the file was received and what Lee did or didn't do. Thanks :)

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:50 pm 
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wayne wrote:
:D got my down thi


Yes, but you failed to complete a sentence :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
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Charscot wrote:
Yep, knew about the laptop and your subbing for him (thanks for doing that).

Whether the text file is needed will depend on what Lee and Simon say as need to know whether the file was received and what Lee did or didn't do. Thanks :)


No worries mate, won't delete file until you have a conclusion.

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 Post subject: Re: WPL Super Cup Chat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:23 pm 
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Ta mate. Will know by this time tomorrow realistically as the deadline is tomorrow so without any word from Lee as things stand it is uncontested and his team, gets the black mark.

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